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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:04 pm
Post subject: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST
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Hiya!
A quick warning: I'm a windows developer, but quite a newbie to FreeBSD and
unix in general. Trying to learn.
I have an *old* Dell Latitude LM Pentium 133 laptop that I have installed
FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on.
The Laptop has a 6GB HD, 72MB of RAM, an external Floppy and an internal
CD-ROM.
I have two PCMCIA network cards that I can use, and I have tried installing
with both:
(1) "Belkin Wireless Notebook Network Card", 802.11b, F506020 ver.2
model F5D6020 ver.2)
(2) LinkSys N100 Network Card, 802.11b/g
After the regular FreeBSD installation is complete, it asks me if I want to
configure Ethernet. I say Yes, and it comes up with "plip0 <unknown network
interface type>". I am not sure if this is because it doesn't recognize the
network card, or because it doesn't have what it needs (a driver?) to access
any PCMCIA devices; and I have to install something else first before I can
setup the network card. In reading part of the FreeBSD handbook, it seems
that "plip" stands for "Parallel Line IP", which would be used over a
parallel port.
I saw a previous post by Frank Mayhar on the freebsd-mobile list saying that
5.3-CURRENT has much better wireless network support. I wonder if maybe it
will recognize the Belkin card. The Belkin card was purchased about a year
ago, at CompUSA. Or maybe there's some PCMCIA support I have to install
first. From what I gather, I don't think this is necessary.
Also, section 25.3.3.6 of the FreeBSD handbook mentions using a windows
driver and NDISulator. That might be another avenue to consider.
Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Chris Morse" wrote in message
> I have an *old* Dell Latitude LM Pentium 133 laptop that I have installed
> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on.
> The Laptop has a 6GB HD, 72MB of RAM, an external Floppy and an internal
> CD-ROM.
> Belkin Wireless Notebook Network Card", 802.11b, F506020 ver.2
I am trying to get FreeBSD OS support for my wireless network card..
According to the Dell specs on my laptop, it has a Cirrus Logic CL-PD6730,
2.01 Compatible PCI PCMCIA controller.
I poked around with google and the freebsd-questions list looking for
information. I found something called "pcic" which seems to be "legacy"
now. If I do a "man pcic" I can see that the Cirrus Logic PD6730 is
supported.
Having installed FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, I checked the GENERIC config file, and
see that it has these lines:
# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
# PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support
device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge
device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus
device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus
My guess was that I had to add the following:
device pcic # support for old Cirrus Logic CL-PD6730 (?)
... and then recompile the kernel... which I did ok..
I found the web page "Getting Your PC Card To Work" here:
http://andrsn.stanford.edu/FreeBSD/pccard2.html
Firstly, I'm not even sure how to check if the "device pcic" kernel config
change I made has done anything..
Second, I think I have to create a file (it doesn't exist right now) called
/etc/pccard.conf and supply some information..
I found a pccard.conf.sample over at http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/ - but
no Belkin cards in there..
Any ideas? Am I going in the right directin? This is probably trivial
stuff, but it's taking me a while.. 
Thanks,
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Chris Morse wrote:
> According to the Dell specs on my laptop, it has a Cirrus Logic CL-PD6730,
> 2.01 Compatible PCI PCMCIA controller.
> Any ideas? Am I going in the right directin? This is probably trivial
> stuff, but it's taking me a while..
Before I would beat myself up I'd load up the latest KnoppixCD and see
if it works under Linux. If that works (which it does with both my
laptops), I'd try the freesbie CD and see if that works. It should. Then
you can see what settings are needed in order to get your wireless
working under 5.3.
http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ (bootable Knoppix Games CD)
http://www.freesbie.org/?section=download-en (bootable FreeBSD)
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Walter >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:31 pm
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Good idea, but unfortunately this laptop doesn't support booting from a CD!
Erg..
All indications that I can see says that the wireless pcmcia card *should*
work, I just have to figure out how to set it up. I may have to re-load
Win98SE on the machine and get the wireless working on that (which I did
before I wiped the HD and put FreeBSD on) -- then check the hardware
settings for the Cirrus Logic PCI-to-PCMCIA bridge (IRQ, Address, etc?)
along with the IRQ etc for the Belkin wireless lan PC Card. Hopefully that
will tell me what I need to know -- then I just have to figure out where/how
to tell FreeBSD that information.
// CHRIS
"Walter Vaughan" wrote in message
> Chris Morse wrote:
>
>> According to the Dell specs on my laptop, it has a Cirrus Logic
>> CL-PD6730, 2.01 Compatible PCI PCMCIA controller.
>> Any ideas? Am I going in the right directin? This is probably trivial
>> stuff, but it's taking me a while..
>
> Before I would beat myself up I'd load up the latest KnoppixCD and see if
> it works under Linux. If that works (which it does with both my laptops),
> I'd try the freesbie CD and see if that works. It should. Then you can see
> what settings are needed in order to get your wireless working under 5.3.
>
> http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ (bootable Knoppix Games CD)
> http://www.freesbie.org/?section=download-en (bootable FreeBSD)
>
> --
> Walter >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:36 pm
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Chris Morse wrote:
> Hiya!
>
>
>
> A quick warning: I'm a windows developer, but quite a newbie to FreeBSD and
> unix in general. Trying to learn.
>
>
>
> I have an *old* Dell Latitude LM Pentium 133 laptop that I have installed
> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on.
>
> The Laptop has a 6GB HD, 72MB of RAM, an external Floppy and an internal
> CD-ROM.
>
>
>
> I have two PCMCIA network cards that I can use, and I have tried installing
> with both:
>
>
> (1) "Belkin Wireless Notebook Network Card", 802.11b, F506020 ver.2
> model F5D6020 ver.2)
>
> (2) LinkSys N100 Network Card, 802.11b/g
>
>
>
> After the regular FreeBSD installation is complete, it asks me if I want to
> configure Ethernet. I say Yes, and it comes up with "plip0 <unknown network
> interface type>". I am not sure if this is because it doesn't recognize the
> network card, or because it doesn't have what it needs (a driver?) to access
> any PCMCIA devices; and I have to install something else first before I can
> setup the network card. In reading part of the FreeBSD handbook, it seems
> that "plip" stands for "Parallel Line IP", which would be used over a
> parallel port.
>
> I saw a previous post by Frank Mayhar on the freebsd-mobile list saying that
> 5.3-CURRENT has much better wireless network support. I wonder if maybe it
> will recognize the Belkin card. The Belkin card was purchased about a year
> ago, at CompUSA. Or maybe there's some PCMCIA support I have to install
> first. From what I gather, I don't think this is necessary.
>
>
> Also, section 25.3.3.6 of the FreeBSD handbook mentions using a windows
> driver and NDISulator. That might be another avenue to consider.
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions!
>
> // CHRIS
>
>
Out of curiousity, did you attempt to setup your ethernet card during
install in Sysinstall? On an old Thinkpad I had (which has since gone
to that great ethernet in the sky) I loaded a module for the ethernet
card in sysinstall and the opsys remembered it - it was (then) the
easiest way for me to get up and running.
Once I found out which module it was I had a running start.
--------------------------------------------
John Bleichert - syborg.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net
"Conclamatum est, poculatum est" >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:04 pm
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"John Bleichert" wrote in message
> Out of curiousity, did you attempt to setup your ethernet card during
> install in Sysinstall? On an old Thinkpad I had (which has since gone
> to that great ethernet in the sky) I loaded a module for the ethernet
> card in sysinstall and the opsys remembered it - it was (then) the
> easiest way for me to get up and running.
>
> Once I found out which module it was I had a running start.
> --------------------------------------------
> John Bleichert - syborg.RemoveThis@earthlink.net
> "Conclamatum est, poculatum est"
During the initial sysinstall, it asks if I want to setup ethernet.. I said
Yes,
and the choices were PPP, SLIP and "plip0 <unrecognized network adapter>"
or something along those lines.. I've since figured out that plip is some
sort
of parallel-port IP driver.
The GENERIC kernel that comes with FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE does not
include "driver pcic" in the GENERIC config file, which seems to be needed
in order to recognize my (old) PCI-PCMCIA bridge. So it never even has
a chance to see the network adapter.
Hmm.. I can run sysinstall now and see if the "device pcic" I added to the
kernel helps now.. (checking) .. no better .. sysinstall first came up and
said "Probing Devices ..." then I went into Configure / Networking and
it still comes up with just the plip0, SLIP and PPP options..
I think I have move configuring to do on the pcic - but I have to figure out
where to do that and what to put in.. IRQ, etc, I think I need to specify.
Thanks,
// CHRIS >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:20 am
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"John Bleichert" wrote in message
> Out of curiousity, did you attempt to setup your ethernet card during
> install in Sysinstall? On an old Thinkpad I had (which has since gone
> to that great ethernet in the sky) I loaded a module for the ethernet
> card in sysinstall and the opsys remembered it - it was (then) the
> easiest way for me to get up and running.
>
> Once I found out which module it was I had a running start.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> John Bleichert - syborg RemoveThis @earthlink.net
> "Conclamatum est, poculatum est"
Whee! I made progress.. I think! I thought I had only changed the
pcmcia lines in the kernel config file, and I started getting compile
errors while rebuilding. So I remembered someone mentioning a
config file called "OLDCARD". I rebuilt the kernel using that, and
now when my laptop boots it see's *something*.. and the Belkin
wifi card's lights come on (didn't before)..
Now I have to figure out how to set it for DHCP and set the SSID.
Maybe this will work ok now.. Hopefully!
Thanks,
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:07 am
Post subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:19 pm
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"MattD.." wrote in message
> On Saturday 05 Mar 2005 05:20, Chris Morse came home, took out the glass
> eye, put the false teeth in Steradent, took off the false leg and wig and
> sat down. Then what was left typed:
>
>> Now I have to figure out how to set it for DHCP and set the SSID.
>> Maybe this will work ok now.. Hopefully!
>
> man 5 dhclient.conf
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> It doesn't look relevant to start with, but if you're going to use WEP or
> a
> particular SSID with DHCP on 802.11, this is the place to configure it,
> not
> rc.conf (apart from the usual ifconfig_wi0="DHCP").
> --
> Radio glossary #34
> Maritime mobile: What you are after being thrown overboard for wiping
> out Ch16 on the ferry with your 2m handheld.
Thanks a lot for your help. I don't think the wireless card is really being
detected though. As another test, I swapped out the Belkin wireless card
with my wired LinkSys 10/100 and after rebooting and checking "ifconfig -a",
I saw that it was detected as device "ed0". So I added ifconfig_ed0="DHCP"
to /etc/rc.conf and rebooted again. When it came up, all was good - I got
an IP address and can get to the internet.
It seems evident to me that setting up a wireless connection is a little
over my head right now. I just started using FreeBSD (and unix in general)
about 3 days ago!
I'm wondering if my Belkin card really is supported or not. I can't figure
out what chipset it's using. There is a FAQ question about the chipsets at
Belkin.com here:
http://web.belkin.com/support/kb/kb.asp?a=1445&langid=1
And it states that the chipset is "Intersil Prism 2.0"..
However, I also found a page here:
http://www.houseofcraig.net/atmel_guide.php
entitled "Craig's Guide to the Belkin F5D6020 version 2" which declares in
the first paragraph "This card contains an Atmel AT76C502a chipset."
Anyhow, I seem to recall reading that FreeBSD supports only the Prism
chipsets.. Perhaps that was just for the "device pcic".. I've been reading
from so many places, I forgot where I read that. (I'm trying to bookmark as
much as I can.. must have missed that one..)
Again, thanks for your help!
// CHRIS >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE on Dell Latitude LM-P133ST |
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