FreeBSD 7 faster than Linux ??

In ,
"Tony Drudge" mentions:
>
>"pg" wrote in message
>
>> More info at
>>
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>
>> Page 18 and 19.
>>
>>
>> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>>
>> For info, please read
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>
>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>
>
>FreeBSD is DEFINITELY faster than linux.
>
>I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most of
>my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at best and
>video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux ran so slow
>that it was unusable.

The thing I didn't like about BSD's in general is the way "GNU is bad"
and everything was in duplicate. gtar & tar make, bmake & gmake ....
"bash sucks 'cause it's GNU, you should be using csh" and things end
up in /usr/local .. ugh!

That and the goofy pathnames.

Having said that.. I really, *really* wish linux had BSD jails.

If BSD is faster than linux, I might check it out again. This might
be the "tipping point" for me.

But really, I just wish linux had BSD jails, I mean there is vserver project
(excellent, too bad it isn't up to date) and friends, but nothing in the
mainline kernel.


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"Jamie" wrote in message

> In ,
> "Tony Drudge" mentions:
>>
>>"pg" wrote in message
>>
>>> More info at
>>>
>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>>
>>> Page 18 and 19.
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>>>
>>> For info, please read
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>>
>>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>>
>>
>>FreeBSD is DEFINITELY faster than linux.
>>
>>I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most
>>of
>>my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at best
>>and
>>video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux ran so slow
>>that it was unusable.
>
> The thing I didn't like about BSD's in general is the way "GNU is bad"
> and everything was in duplicate. gtar & tar make, bmake & gmake ....
> "bash sucks 'cause it's GNU, you should be using csh" and things end
> up in /usr/local .. ugh!
>
> That and the goofy pathnames.
>
> Having said that.. I really, *really* wish linux had BSD jails.
>
> If BSD is faster than linux, I might check it out again. This might
> be the "tipping point" for me.
>
> But really, I just wish linux had BSD jails, I mean there is vserver
> project
> (excellent, too bad it isn't up to date) and friends, but nothing in the
> mainline kernel.
>

FreeBSD is very fast and efficient. The BSD "jails" are much like "Zones"
that Solaris has. An excellent and powerful feature.




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 >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 7 faster than Linux ?? 

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:14:56 -0800 (PST), pg wrote:

> More info at
> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>
> Page 18 and 19.
>
>
> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>
> For info, please read
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>
> Audio and Video performance is affected.

To be fair, a large percentage of people configure their own FreeBSD
kernels (and in fact you have to to get the new FreeBSD scheduler), and at
the same time optimize the builds of the userland tools.

In that way, it's a lot more like Gentoo than your typical linux distro, so
i'd like to see a comparison of FreeBSD 7 against an optmized gentoo.
 >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 7 faster than Linux ?? 

nospam.TakeThisOut@geniegate.com (Jamie) writes:

>In ,
>"Tony Drudge" mentions:
>>
>>"pg" wrote in message
>>
>>> More info at
>>>
>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>>
>>> Page 18 and 19.
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>>>
>>> For info, please read
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>>
>>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>>
>>
>>FreeBSD is DEFINITELY faster than linux.
>>
>>I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most of
>>my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at best and
>>video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux ran so slow
>>that it was unusable.

>The thing I didn't like about BSD's in general is the way "GNU is bad"
>and everything was in duplicate. gtar & tar make, bmake & gmake ....
>"bash sucks 'cause it's GNU, you should be using csh" and things end
>up in /usr/local .. ugh!

>That and the goofy pathnames.

>Having said that.. I really, *really* wish linux had BSD jails.

>If BSD is faster than linux, I might check it out again. This might
>be the "tipping point" for me.

Ignore the post you replied to. He has so many problems one suspects that
the problem was actually somewhere over the keyboard. Ie, noone else has
such a series of problems, which means that his report is totally atypical,
if not a lie.



>But really, I just wish linux had BSD jails, I mean there is vserver project
>(excellent, too bad it isn't up to date) and friends, but nothing in the
>mainline kernel.


>Jamie
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>http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming
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* Unruh peremptorily fired off this memo:

>>In ,
>>"Tony Drudge" mentions:
>>>
>>>I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most of
>>>my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at best and
>>>video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux ran so slow
>>>that it was unusable.
>
>>If BSD is faster than linux, I might check it out again. This might
>>be the "tipping point" for me.
>
> Ignore the post you replied to. He has so many problems one suspects that
> the problem was actually somewhere over the keyboard. Ie, noone else has
> such a series of problems, which means that his report is totally atypical,
> if not a lie.

The part about his Intel core duo machine with Linux is total made-up
bullshit. Not one bit of it is true.

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* Erik Funkenbusch peremptorily fired off this memo:

> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:14:56 -0800 (PST), pg wrote:
>
>> More info at
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>
>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>
> To be fair, a large percentage of people configure their own FreeBSD
> kernels (and in fact you have to to get the new FreeBSD scheduler), and at
> the same time optimize the builds of the userland tools.
>
> In that way, it's a lot more like Gentoo than your typical linux distro, so
> i'd like to see a comparison of FreeBSD 7 against an optmized gentoo.

I wouldn't be surprised about any speed comparison between Linux and
FreeBSD. I suspect they tend to leapfrog each other in features/speed.

So many things to try, so little time!

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____/ Unruh on Thursday 06 March 2008 15:55 : \____

> nospam RemoveThis @geniegate.com (Jamie) writes:
>
>>In ,
>>"Tony Drudge" mentions:
>>>
>>>"pg" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> More info at
>>>>
>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Page 18 and 19.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>>>>
>>>> For info, please read
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>>>
>>>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>>>
>>>
>>>FreeBSD is DEFINITELY faster than linux.
>>>
>>>I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most of
>>>my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at best and
>>>video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux ran so slow
>>>that it was unusable.
>
>>The thing I didn't like about BSD's in general is the way "GNU is bad"
>>and everything was in duplicate. gtar & tar make, bmake & gmake ....
>>"bash sucks 'cause it's GNU, you should be using csh" and things end
>>up in /usr/local .. ugh!
>
>>That and the goofy pathnames.
>
>>Having said that.. I really, *really* wish linux had BSD jails.
>
>>If BSD is faster than linux, I might check it out again. This might
>>be the "tipping point" for me.
>
> Ignore the post you replied to. He has so many problems one suspects that
> the problem was actually somewhere over the keyboard. Ie, noone else has
> such a series of problems, which means that his report is totally atypical,
> if not a lie.

"Tony Drudge" is one among almost 100 pseudonyms used by this obscene Microsoft
liar and Munchkin whose real name is Scott Douglas. Ignore the lies.


>>But really, I just wish linux had BSD jails, I mean there is vserver project
>>(excellent, too bad it isn't up to date) and friends, but nothing in the
>>mainline kernel.
>
>
>>Jamie
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>>http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming
>>Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions

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 >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 7 faster than Linux ?? 

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:19:27 -0500, Tony Drudge wrote:

> "pg" wrote in message
>

>> More info at
>>
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>
>> Page 18 and 19.
>>
>>
>> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>>
>> For info, please read
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>
>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>
>
> FreeBSD is DEFINITELY faster than linux.
>
> I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most
> of my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at
> best and video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux
> ran so slow that it was unusable.

Oh come on, now. Linux is eminently usable on my 1ghz mini-itx (1ghz VIA
C3). If it's not usable, it's because you screwed it up.
 >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 7 faster than Linux ?? 

ray wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:19:27 -0500, Tony Drudge wrote:
>
>> "pg" wrote in message
>>
>
>>> More info at
>>>
>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf
>>>
>>> Page 18 and 19.
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like CFS is the culprit.
>>>
>>> For info, please read
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190754
>>>
>>> Audio and Video performance is affected.
>>
>>
>> FreeBSD is DEFINITELY faster than linux.
>>
>> I tried linux on a new Intel core dual machine with 2-Gigs of RAM. Most
>> of my hardware wasn't recognized. No audio, networking was spotty at
>> best and video only ran in 800x600 mode. The worst thing is that linux
>> ran so slow that it was unusable.
>
> Oh come on, now. Linux is eminently usable on my 1ghz mini-itx (1ghz VIA
> C3). If it's not usable, it's because you screwed it up.

"Tony Drudge" is the teranews nymshifter.
His credibility is far in the negative values. In short, he is lying.
Nothing he writes can be trusted. Absolutely nothing
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In ,
>FreeBSD is very fast and efficient. The BSD "jails" are much like "Zones"
>that Solaris has. An excellent and powerful feature.

Which is why it really surprises me that linux doesn't seem to have them.
Overall I really like linux. (Have been using it since 94 or so, was amazing
then and it still is)

I'm using vserver on some machines, it works really good but I'm
regretting it because I can never upgrade them.

Jamie
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 >> Stay informed about: FreeBSD 7 faster than Linux ??