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greymaus

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:45 am
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Looking to educate myself, I have installed FreeBSD as a dual-boot on
this Linux machine, and have overcome some basic problems. Now I have
a couple of questions.

How do I get FreeBSD to use a "better" console, like the one one gets
by specifying
vga=791
in lilo.conf.? (stll using the lilo installed through linux)

How do I change the default shell from csh to bash?.

Most of my remaining problems seem to be results of these two.


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Patrick_Lamaizière

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:03 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:04 pm
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On 2008-04-23, Patrick Lamaizière wrote:
> greymaus écrivait
>
>> Looking to educate myself, I have installed FreeBSD as a dual-boot on
>> this Linux machine, and have overcome some basic problems. Now I have
>> a couple of questions.
>>
>> How do I get FreeBSD to use a "better" console, like the one one gets
>> by specifying
>> vga=791
>> in lilo.conf.? (stll using the lilo installed through linux)
>
> See vidcontrol(1)
>
>> How do I change the default shell from csh to bash?.
>
> chsh(1), install bash from the ports tree.

Thanks. Should learn chsh, of course Smile.

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Giorgos Keramidas

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:50 pm
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On 23 Apr 2008 09:45:49 GMT, greymaus wrote:
> Looking to educate myself, I have installed FreeBSD as a dual-boot on
> this Linux machine, and have overcome some basic problems. Now I have
> a couple of questions.
>
> How do I get FreeBSD to use a "better" console, like the one one gets
> by specifying vga=791 in lilo.conf.? (stll using the lilo installed
> through linux)

FreeBSD doesn't really have *all* the fancy VESA and framebuffer console
support Linux has. Recent FreeBSD releases have improved vastly since
the time we had only `vidcontrol 80x30', but I usually find that it is
easier and far far more stable to just install an X11 where I need good
graphical UI support Smile

> How do I change the default shell from csh to bash?.

The same way it's done on all UNIX systems which have a chsh(1) utility:

(1) Install the new shell somewhere, i.e. /usr/local/bin/newshell

(2) Make sure it's listed in /etc/shells

(3) Run the `chsh' utility to change the default user shell.

If you mean you want to change the shell of the *root* user to bash,
then it's probably a good idea to read the FreeBSD FAQ:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/
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Bob Eager

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:16 pm
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:04:37 UTC, greymaus wrote:

> On 2008-04-23, Patrick Lamaizière wrote:
> > greymaus écrivait
> >
> >> Looking to educate myself, I have installed FreeBSD as a dual-boot on
> >> this Linux machine, and have overcome some basic problems. Now I have
> >> a couple of questions.
> >>
> >> How do I get FreeBSD to use a "better" console, like the one one gets
> >> by specifying
> >> vga=791
> >> in lilo.conf.? (stll using the lilo installed through linux)
> >
> > See vidcontrol(1)
> >
> >> How do I change the default shell from csh to bash?.
> >
> > chsh(1), install bash from the ports tree.
>
> Thanks. Should learn chsh, of course Smile.

Or just:

pw usermod user -s /pathtoshell

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greymaus

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:45 pm
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On 2008-04-23, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 23 Apr 2008 09:45:49 GMT, greymaus wrote:
>> Looking to educate myself, I have installed FreeBSD as a dual-boot on
>> this Linux machine, and have overcome some basic problems. Now I have
>> a couple of questions.
>>
>> How do I get FreeBSD to use a "better" console, like the one one gets
>> by specifying vga=791 in lilo.conf.? (stll using the lilo installed
>> through linux)
>
> FreeBSD doesn't really have *all* the fancy VESA and framebuffer console
> support Linux has. Recent FreeBSD releases have improved vastly since
> the time we had only `vidcontrol 80x30', but I usually find that it is
> easier and far far more stable to just install an X11 where I need good
> graphical UI support Smile

I discovered that `vidcontrol 80x30` is REALLY ugly. Better with the
ooriginal settings.
>
>> How do I change the default shell from csh to bash?.
>
> The same way it's done on all UNIX systems which have a chsh(1) utility:
>
> (1) Install the new shell somewhere, i.e. /usr/local/bin/newshell
>
> (2) Make sure it's listed in /etc/shells
>
> (3) Run the `chsh' utility to change the default user shell.
>
> If you mean you want to change the shell of the *root* user to bash,
> then it's probably a good idea to read the FreeBSD FAQ:
>
> http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/
>
Again thanks for the info. BTW, is it supposed to be that slow,
against Linux on the same hardware?

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Giorgos Keramidas

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:11 pm
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On 23 Apr 2008 14:04:37 GMT, greymaus wrote:
>>> How do I change the default shell from csh to bash?.
>>
>> chsh(1), install bash from the ports tree.
>
> Thanks. Should learn chsh, of course Smile.

Alternatively, once you get familiar with the format of the password
file, you can just use:

# vipw

and manually edit the password entry of the user.

HTH,
Giorgos
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Stan Barr

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:24 pm
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On 23 Apr 2008 18:45:45 GMT, greymaus wrote:
>
>I discovered that `vidcontrol 80x30` is REALLY ugly. Better with the
>ooriginal settings.

On this subject, has anyone managed to get other console setiings
other than 80x34 on a Sun Ultra5? "Vidcontrol -i mode" only gives
me the one option, so I'm stuck with a few lines of text in the
middle of a 19-inch screen Sad

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Steve O'Hara-Smith

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:06 am
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On 23 Apr 2008 18:45:45 GMT
greymaus wrote:

> Again thanks for the info. BTW, is it supposed to be that slow,
> against Linux on the same hardware?

Simple stuff at the command line should be virtually instantaneous,
what's going slow enough to notice it as slow ?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:21 am
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On 2008-04-28, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On 23 Apr 2008 18:45:45 GMT
> greymaus wrote:
>
>> Again thanks for the info. BTW, is it supposed to be that slow,
>> against Linux on the same hardware?
>
> Simple stuff at the command line should be virtually instantaneous,
> what's going slow enough to notice it as slow ?
>

Fancy meeting you. I hit `A` when setting up the slices and that seems to
be the problem, reinstalled and put everything under '/'. Great now.


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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:52 am
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On 29 Apr 2008 09:21:37 GMT
greymaus wrote:

> On 2008-04-28, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> > On 23 Apr 2008 18:45:45 GMT
> > greymaus wrote:
> >
> >> Again thanks for the info. BTW, is it supposed to be that slow,
> >> against Linux on the same hardware?
> >
> > Simple stuff at the command line should be virtually
> > instantaneous, what's going slow enough to notice it as slow ?
> >
>
> Fancy meeting you. I hit `A` when setting up the slices and that seems to

Been using FreeBSD and hanging out here since '93.

Anyway you know there are only 200 real people in the world Smile

> be the problem, reinstalled and put everything under '/'. Great now.

Hmm that shouldn't have caused any problems, unless one of the
slices was getting close to full (>90%) and being written to. Ah well
problem now gone and thus impossible to diagnose.

Enjoy FreeBSD.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:44 pm
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On 2008-04-29, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2008 09:21:37 GMT
> greymaus wrote:
>
>> On 2008-04-28, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>> > On 23 Apr 2008 18:45:45 GMT
>> > greymaus wrote:
>> >
>> >> Again thanks for the info. BTW, is it supposed to be that slow,
>> >> against Linux on the same hardware?
>> >
>> > Simple stuff at the command line should be virtually
>> > instantaneous, what's going slow enough to notice it as slow ?
>> >
>>
>> Fancy meeting you. I hit `A` when setting up the slices and that seems to
>
> Been using FreeBSD and hanging out here since '93.
>
> Anyway you know there are only 200 real people in the world Smile

'Twas said that if you loitered in Picadilly, everyone of importance would
pass by sometime. Probably a policeman wondering what you were doing.

>
>> be the problem, reinstalled and put everything under '/'. Great now.
>
> Hmm that shouldn't have caused any problems, unless one of the
> slices was getting close to full (>90%) and being written to. Ah well
> problem now gone and thus impossible to diagnose.

/devs was 99%.

>
> Enjoy FreeBSD.
New view on things. No Barb.

>


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